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Is THIS LOOPHOLE allowing illegal immigrants to vote?

Are illegal immigrants registering to vote in the 2024 election? Glenn speaks with Election Integrity Network founder Cleta Mitchell, who believes “YES, illegals are voting.” Mitchell lays out how it’s happening: “The 2 ways states have historically confirmed identity and residency were driver’s license and social security number. You don’t have to be a citizen to get either of those.” Plus, she explains a massive win for election integrity in Georgia.

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GLENN: Welcome back to the program, Cleta Mitchell. How are you, Cleta?

CLETA: I'm good. How are you this morning?

GLENN: I'm good. I'm very good. Thank you for all of your hard work, and for all the people that are working with you to ensure the election has some integrity. But I want to talk to you first about the Georgia battle against the Democrats.

What is happening in Georgia right now?

CLETA: Well, what we have going on, Georgia seems to always be -- Georgia is always on my mind, I guess. But the -- what has happened is that the state-owned election board is a five-member board that has one member appointed by the Republicans, one member appointed by the state democratic party. Up member appointed by the Speaker of the House.

One member appointed by the lieutenant governor, who is president of the Senate and the chairman is appointed by the governor.

That should be a four to one Republican to Democrat ratio. However, historically, there have always been these Republicans, who vote with the Democrats.

And so the idea is -- how many places do we see this, Glenn?

Everywhere.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. It is just so exhausting. The Republicans are such -- they're just limp noodles. God, they're bad.

CLETA: Exhausting is the best word.

But as of June of this year, we finally have a rule of law, majority. Three, that the Republican appointee, from the state party. The lieutenant governor's appointee. And then in June, the Speaker of the House, replaced his pro-Democrat Republican appointee. With a firebrand, smart, capable, conservative woman.

And so for the first time, we have a rule of law, majority.

Election board members. Who are determined, to -- that the law be implemented. That the Georgia law be implemented.

GLENN: Which is?

CLETA: So they have issues -- which is that -- let's just start with one of the things that the Democrats are going for. A rule that will take effect next week. That requires reconciliation of the ballots, before and the votes, prior to the time when they're certified.

And what that means, is that at every voting location, before those results are set to the county, that voting location, the workers must make -- they must look at the number of voters. Who are shown as having been issued ballots.

And that number must match the number of ballots issued, and that number must match the number of votes, cast in that precinct.

GLENN: That's arise. That's -- I mean, you want to make sure that the numbers match. Wow. Wow.

CLETA: As we say, it's kindergarten arithmetic. But the left is going berserk. Absolutely berserk.

And they are saying, well, it will delay certification. Well, no. It doesn't delay anything.

They just to have make sure those numbers match.

And that the results are accurate.

The Democrats are literally saying, they want speed over accuracy. Now, why would they do that?

GLENN: Okay. Yeah. Especially from the people who say, it may be days before we know.

You know, we have to get used to this new system.

So they want speed.

CLETA: We want to -- we want to receive ballots for two weeks, right?

GLENN: But how hard is it to have a tally sheet of everybody who signed in, and got a ballot, and start numbering them as they come in, one, two, three, four, five.

And look at the counter on the machine and see if they match. I don't think a problem.

CLETA: That's right. But it was a problem. And county after county after county in 2020.


And so they also are taking the position. This is another rule that they -- a new rule. Now, mind you, this is already the state law. Let's not forget that. The statute requires it.

It's just that there's been no procedure in the state board's rule that says, here's how you do this, step by step by step. So this just --

GLENN: You wouldn't think you would need to.

CLETA: You wouldn't think you would need to.

But another rule says, that the members of the board, at every county, you have either a three- or five-member board. It's up to the county.

And it's -- it's a bipartisan board. It's either -- it's either -- it's either three to two, from whatever party controls the county. Because it's appointed by the county party and the county commissioners.

So if you have a democrat county commission as in Fulton County, the Democrats will control. If you have a Republican county commission, as in some of the red counties, the Republicans will control.

But it says, the law -- the state law says that they must -- they take an oath to certify the elections, which -- that it's a true and accurate -- that each of them have to sign.

GLENN: A big deal. Yeah. Kind of like part of the job.

CLETA: Well, yes, except, that Mark Alias, the Democrat's election cheating lawyer, has come up with a theory that he is advancing, and now the left wing, the ABA, their Bar Association -- all these left-wing advocacy groups are advancing this all over the country. Just to say, that these bipartisan boards are just ceremonial. That they have no authority --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

CLETA: I'm not making this up. They have no authority.

The Democrat legislature in Michigan, about a month ago, passed a bill to strip the bipartisan canvassing boards, that has historically performed this role, of looking at the data, and looking at the results. And certifying, agreeing, certifying, that what the administrators, election workers had done, that this is a true and accurate result.

And I -- I call it -- you know I call it. I decide. This is like Fauci-izing the election process. Don't ask any questions. Trust the experts.

Do what we say. And don't look behind the curtain. And that's --

GLENN: So we're talking --

CLETA: That's what they're doing in Georgia.

GLENN: We're talking to Cleta Mitchell. Her website is whoiscounting.us.

But what is happening in Georgia -- and I want to expand this a bit. Are illegals being registered to vote?

CLETA: Yes, they are.

And here's how it's happening. You have -- you have them going into the Department of Motor Vehicles, or whatever it's called in your state.

Department of transportation. Department of driver services.

And you know, 31 years ago, Congress passed a law saying that states must -- at the -- when issued a driver's license, that people must be given the voter registration forms. They must be given those forms at the DMV, or if you go to sign up for food stamps, or welfare benefits. That they -- that wherever people interact with these two types of government agencies, they must be registered to vote.

And so they're -- the end of that law, also requires, that states must accept and use the federal voter registration form.

Well, that form, just has a box, to check.

Are you a citizen?

And we have ample evidence, over a number of years, where people will check the box, no.

I'm not a citizen.

And they get sent over as registered to vote anyway.

Well, now what you have. And I have had reports. People have seen this all over the country.

That they have been going in. These normal people. Going in to get their driver's license renewed.

Or a tag for their new car. And they see these clusters. Of people who clearly don't speak English.

In Michigan, a fellow sent me something that a woman had a big sign around her neck that said, interpreter. And she was taking them in to get their driver's licenses. Or their ID card.

And I have absolutely no reason to think, that they're not automatically being added to the voter rolls, because Michigan has a new law, that if you -- that you have to opt out. You have to opt out, in Georgia.

And these people don't even speak English. How are they even going to know, that they will be added to the voter rolls? Because they're automatically added. And once they get on those voter rolls. It's very difficult to get them off.

And the two ways that states have historically confirmed identity and residency, were with the driver's licenses. And with the Social Security number.

Well, you don't have to be a citizen, to get either of those.

And in 19 states, illegals are issued driver's licenses.

It's been a big push by the ACLU. It's a very big problem.

It's a very big problem. And what we've finally figured out. Go ahead.

GLENN: No, no, no.

CLETA: What we've finally figured out is the only way that -- that the states could, if they wanted to, right now, they could run their voter rolls against the database, that the DMVs have of citizenship, because -- because of the real ID. That the DMVs are required to only issue a driver's license. You know, one of the real ID licenses, to someone who is a US citizen. Or permanent resident. You don't to have be a citizen to get a real ID.

But in Wisconsin, last week, a suit was filed to force the voter rolls to be run against in Wisconsin, by the Department of Transportation database.

They have said, they have acknowledged publicly, that they have citizenship data.

But so far, the Democrat regime in Wisconsin has refused to run those -- to run the databases to see who on the voter rolls is a non-citizen, and then require them to come in and provide proof of citizenship to be able to stay on the rolls and vote.

It's a very big problem.

GLENN: All right. So Cleta, in listening to this. I can imagine the average person says, it's already taken.

It's done. They've already won. Because they're going to cheat. And it doesn't matter anymore.

And if they're not saying it now, they will say it by the episode of this election season, if things look shady. Which I can't imagine that they won't. Just because of the number of illegals.

So what do we do, to help shore this up?

Every American, Republican, Democrat, independent, should all be on board. With making sure there is no funny business, in a blue state or a blue district, or a red district.

It doesn't matter. Nobody should be voting that shouldn't be voting.

And every vote should be counted, that should be -- should be counted. That is an actual voter. All of this fraud.

So when we come back, will you just tell us, how we can help. It's Cleta Mitchell. She's with Election Integrity Network. She's the founder of that.


So Cleta Mitchell is with us. She is the election integrity network founder. And we've been talking about Georgia, and some of the other places. All of these -- all of these swing states are so important right now. She's with whoiscounting.us?

So what do we do, Cleta?

CLETA: Well, there are a couple of things. Specifically talking about a noncitizen voting. We have formed a national coalition, and people can sign up at -- it's called.

It's www.onlycitizensvotecoalition.com, and you'll get the weekly newsletter. And we have a national working group, that meets virtually, every Thursday at 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. And we are having a -- we are going to sponsor a national Only Citizens Vote Week.

And that will be September the 15th through the 20th. We have resources. People can download. We'll have full kits by next week, where people can download, take them to your local printer. Print signs. Go -- go to your local DMVs, and find out. Talk to the manager. Say, what are you doing?

Making sure that you're not inadvertently or deliberately registering non-citizens. Going to election boards. We will have step-by-step instructions about what people can do, talking to their county commissioners, going to their state legislators, calling on their governors, and their secretaries of state. We have specific action plans to create visibility, and, you know, the reason we pick that week, is because September 17th Tuesday of that week.

Is the take we -- it's national Constitution day. It's the day we commemorate the ratification of the Constitution.

And it is to say, if you are a citizen, voting -- the duty and the privilege of voting, belongs to you. From our Constitution.

From our beloved US Constitution.

You must register. You must vote if you're a citizen. But if you're not a citizen, it is illegal for you to vote in a US election.

And we want to -- we basically, Glenn, have to build a national neighborhood watch. I'm calling it like the national DMV watch, to try to make sure -- if we put enough eyes and enough noise and enough people saying things, talking on local radio, talking to their -- writing letters to the editor.

It will deter some bad actors. It will. That's why they -- that's why neighborhood watch is important. Is that it changes the law. It's just people watching in their neighborhoods. And saying, we better be watching in our neighborhoods.

About these left-wing NGOs. Nongovernmental organizations. That are bringing illegals all over our country.

Into the communities. We need to be watching, how is that translating into registrations of new voters, illegally in my county?

GLENN: All right. It's Only Citizens Vote --

CLETA: Coalition.

GLENN: What's the word? Coalition.org.

CLETA: .com.
.com.

GLENN: .com. Okay. Only Citizens. --

CLETA: OnlyCitizens --

GLENN: Go there now. Please get this packet. Please stand up. This is -- you know, I can't do thinking.

You can do this. You can do this. Go to onlycitizensvotecoalition.com, and get that packet now.

Cleta, thank you so much. I appreciate all of your hard work on this.

CLETA: Thank you, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. Onlycitizensvotecoalition.com.

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Ron Paul EXPOSES How the Federal Reserve Keeps Up its Scam!

Former Congressman Ron Paul breaks down how the Federal Reserve operates and how it has become so entrenched in the American economic system. He tells Glenn Beck that the problem is continuing to get worse and offers up his advice on what really needs to happen to begin to fix this situation.

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Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
(laughter)

GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.


GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

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Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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